i think what bob said is correct. we do not need to get too far away from the fundamental issue at stake, which is how the senate makes decision and how it is set up to make decisions. going down this road undermines the senate a's -- send a's ability work -- senate's ability to work. >> one more question. >> my name is maria. i have a question. there is an argument that there would be a breakdown and a no man's land if the senate rules changed. senate rules are endogenous. the constitution does not have senate.trictions on the it does say the vice president is the president at the senate. fromto stops the senate creating something like a speaker of the house like position? could the and just -- could they and just to becoming an effective body again? >> the senate does and just all .he time it doesn't together. it together. it does it in a bipartisan way. we are in an unstable situation because of the lack of mutual decisions.nd mutual not necessarily on what legislation will be a muppet how to consider it. will be,